[Users] Zimbra's bug fixing process?
Barry de Graaff
info at barrydegraaff.tk
Sun Feb 14 15:50:46 CET 2021
Hello David, hello everyone,
Responding as a member of the Zeta Alliance since the early days, I find
it a bit saddening to read your negative feelings about Zeta Alliance
and specifically the weekly call.
A number of us have invested a lot of (personal) time and even money
into the Zeta Alliance. Keeping weekly meetings going is not something
to underestimate. Some of us had to really pull and convince people to
join in the early days and over time keeping the agenda and the talk
going (in evening hours), takes a toll, I can tell you.
Zeta Alliance has been around for 5 years and here is a short list of
things that Zeta Alliance deserves credit for:
1. Successfully pushed for the ability to build Zimbra FOSS:
(before the build procedure was not documented and did not work at
all, we do not deserve 100% credit but I think we where the accelerator)
2. Successfully delivered crowdfunded Zimlets and maintained a lot of
orphaned Zimlets: https://github.com/Zimbra-Community
Having these around really pushed Zimbra to the next level as often
Zimlets from the community got redeveloped and baked into the Zimbra
product, there now is 2FA, Nextcloud and soon RocketChat in the main
product. I cannot prove it but this may also provided inspiration
for all the Zimlets (Jitsi/Slack etc etc that are now in Zimbra 9)
3. Zeta Alliance maintained a mailing list, it may not seem like much,
but it is something every open source project should have.
http://lists.zetalliance.org/ has a public archive of everything
ever said on there.
4. Kept weekly conference calls that are open for everyone to join and
talk at. The conference call summaries are on the mailing list
archives. We also have the agenda's of the weekly meetings at
On a few occasions an issue on the call was raised, that was then
brought to Synacor via a letter or one of the attendees reaching out
with everyone else backing. So I do not think the call is an obstacle in
any way to improve the product.
Everyone is free to rant and shame. But I believe the community (and
Zeta Alliance) can be better and more powerful if *more people would
actively invest themselves and contributed their efforts in a selfless
manner*. Anyone can help by discussing with us on the weekly call, help
people on the forums or contribute code via sending PR's on Github.
For the rest, I support what Marc wrote.
Happy Valentines day to all and best regards,
> I might be against some ofyou here but I think the weekly Zeta call goes against the community (and global improvements).
> Yes, I was part of the early Zeta Alliance and I'm still around.
> The weekly call seemed a good idea (to me) at first.
> Chitchat between people really motivated by Zimbra, improvements and so on, outside of Zimbra's owner.
> But, seen from here (I might be wrong as I do not participate to the calls) it turned into a "parner call with some Synacor insiders".
> All of this should happen on the public forum.
> Serious talks, chitchats, answers from Synacor to question raised, shaming, etc.
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