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<p>Hello David, hello everyone,</p>
<p>Responding as a member of the Zeta Alliance since the early days,
I find it a bit saddening to read your negative feelings about
Zeta Alliance and specifically the weekly call.<br>
</p>
<p>A number of us have invested a lot of (personal) time and even
money into the Zeta Alliance. Keeping weekly meetings going is not
something to underestimate. Some of us had to really pull and
convince people to join in the early days and over time keeping
the agenda and the talk going (in evening hours), takes a toll, I
can tell you.<br>
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<p>Zeta Alliance has been around for 5 years and here is a short
list of things that Zeta Alliance deserves credit for:<br>
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<ol>
<li>Successfully pushed for the ability to build Zimbra FOSS:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/Zimbra/zm-build">https://github.com/Zimbra/zm-build</a><br>
(before the build procedure was not documented and did not work
at all, we do not deserve 100% credit but I think we where the
accelerator)</li>
<li>Successfully delivered crowdfunded Zimlets and maintained a
lot of orphaned Zimlets: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/Zimbra-Community">https://github.com/Zimbra-Community</a><br>
Having these around really pushed Zimbra to the next level as
often Zimlets from the community got redeveloped and baked into
the Zimbra product, there now is 2FA, Nextcloud and soon
RocketChat in the main product. I cannot prove it but this may
also provided inspiration for all the Zimlets (Jitsi/Slack etc
etc that are now in Zimbra 9)<br>
</li>
<li>Zeta Alliance maintained a mailing list, it may not seem like
much, but it is something every open source project should have.
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lists.zetalliance.org/">http://lists.zetalliance.org/</a> has a public archive of everything
ever said on there. <br>
</li>
<li>Kept weekly conference calls that are open for everyone to
join and talk at. The conference call summaries are on the
mailing list archives. We also have the agenda's of the weekly
meetings at
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1xDyBJFjnfZYxuXJHiDzsXjjMuGGtIl7J">https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1xDyBJFjnfZYxuXJHiDzsXjjMuGGtIl7J</a>
</li>
</ol>
<p>On a few occasions an issue on the call was raised, that was then
brought to Synacor via a letter or one of the attendees reaching
out with everyone else backing. So I do not think the call is an
obstacle in any way to improve the product.<br>
</p>
<p>Everyone is free to rant and shame. But I believe the community
(and Zeta Alliance) can be better and more powerful if <b>more
people would actively invest themselves and contributed their
efforts in a selfless manner</b>. Anyone can help by discussing
with us on the weekly call, help people on the forums or
contribute code via sending PR's on Github. <br>
</p>
<p>For the rest, I support what Marc wrote.</p>
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<p>Happy Valentines day to all and best regards,</p>
<p><br>
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<p>Barry<br>
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I might be against some ofyou here but I think the weekly Zeta call goes against the community (and global improvements).
Yes, I was part of the early Zeta Alliance and I'm still around.
The weekly call seemed a good idea (to me) at first.
Chitchat between people really motivated by Zimbra, improvements and so on, outside of Zimbra's owner.
But, seen from here (I might be wrong as I do not participate to the calls) it turned into a "parner call with some Synacor insiders".
All of this should happen on the public forum.
Serious talks, chitchats, answers from Synacor to question raised, shaming, etc.
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