[Users] Zimbra 8.8.8 Patch 1 release - Seems to break FOSS only servers

Frédéric Nass frederic.nass at univ-lorraine.fr
Wed Apr 18 10:09:57 CEST 2018


Hi Randy,


Thanks for your words. My previous concern was more focused on Zimbra 
updates. We do trust and use operating system unattended updates on all 
servers since years now without any issues.


Regarding scripts to evacuate a Zimbra mailbox node, we use one that 
runs multiple parallel migrations to multiple stores. We get a 1500 
staff accounts store emptied in like 35 minutes with no real impact on 
production.
Maximum downtime/maintenance time per mailbox goes rarely over 25 
seconds. Average time is 5.8 seconds.

My thought was that Zimbra should have provided this procedure out of 
the box years ago. This was probably part of the 'always-on' mode that 
they talk about 3 years ago. Still waiting for innovations...

Regards,
Frédéric.

Le 17/04/2018 à 19:04, Randy Leiker a écrit :
> Everyone on this topic thread has raised some really good points.  I 
> think that Microsoft learned the hard way, years ago, that their 
> patching/upgrade process used to be arduous & time intensive.  Before 
> the introduction of Windows Update or Windows SUS, the process used to 
> involve regularly visiting Microsoft's security site, manually 
> figuring out which patches applied to machines under your management, 
> then individually downloading & installing each patch one-by-one. 
> Consequently, few organizations at that time rolled out Microsoft 
> updates with any consistency or speed.  As a result of the slow & 
> inconsistent patching, it was common to see worms like Melissa, Code 
> Red, SQL Slammer, and others widely plague countless Windows machine 
> everywhere.
>
> When Microsoft first introduced Windows Update (later becoming 
> Microsoft Update), there was a noteworthy amount of backlash from 
> sysadmins who had the same discussion that we're having now about 
> Zimbra and auto updates from Yum repos.  Microsoft learned quickly 
> that they needed to get their QA for patches & upgrades quickly in 
> order so that sysadmins could learn to trust their auto update 
> process.  With the odd exception, I think they've achieved that goal, 
> and as Mark pointed out, both Microsoft & sysadmin's patching costs 
> have declined considerably from the manual patching process that used 
> to be the norm.
>
> As it relates to Zimbra, Yum has the commands "yum update", "yum 
> upgrade" and "yum update --security" already available.  The 
> differences between each command is widely documented online, but 
> briefly, the latter command "yum update --security" offers a means to 
> install only security related patches, and not feature 
> updates/upgrades or other bug fixes.  It seems to me that if Zimbra 
> were to embrace a similar model, where patches containing strictly 
> security patches could be installed by Zimbra admins in an automated 
> way, without the automatic inclusion of other bug fixes, I think that 
> would be reassuring for many of us so that Zimbra admins could speed 
> along the auto installation of security updates, but roll out Zimbra 
> bug fixes & feature upgrades (using yum update or yum upgrade) on a 
> schedule of their choosing to lessen the impact on each Zimbra 
> server's users.  Perhaps there is already support for "yum update 
> --security" in the Zimbra repos that I'm not aware of, but from the 
> inaccuracy of the install instructions in the release notes for 8.8.8 
> P1, I tend to think that capability doesn't yet exist.  Otherwise, it 
> would seem that a Zimbra admin has to resort to other messy 
> workarounds like temporarily disabling the Zimbra repo when running 
> yum update/upgrade to install patches for other packages.
>
> Frederic, part of the Zimbra High Availability project I'm working on 
> involves developing scripts that are capable of doing just what you 
> describing: evacuating a Zimbra mailbox node so that it can safely be 
> upgraded with no real risk to users.  I'm working on publishing the 
> reference designs for the project now, to be followed by a free, open 
> source Ceph connector, then the mailbox evacuation scripts.  When the 
> next major Zimbra release introduces official support for Docker 
> containers, I think that will make a noticeable impact on the 
> challenge too, as those containers will need persistent storage, which 
> is where the Ceph connector becomes particularly important.
>
>
>
> Randy Leiker (randy at skywaynetworks.com )
> Skyway Networks, LLC
> 1.800.538.5334 / 913.663.3900 Ext. 100
> https://www.skywaynetworks.com <http://www.skywaynetworks.com>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From: *"Frédéric Nass" <frederic.nass at univ-lorraine.fr>
> *To: *"L Mark Stone" <lmstone at lmstone.com>, "Barry de Graaff" 
> <info at barrydegraaff.tk>
> *Cc: *users at lists.zetalliance.org, "Phil Pearl" <ppearl at zimbra.com>
> *Sent: *Tuesday, April 17, 2018 3:32:05 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [Users] Zimbra 8.8.8 Patch 1 release - Seems to break 
> FOSS only servers
>
> Hi Mark
>
>
> I see you point and totally agree, but a few things would still 
> prevent us from using unattended upgrades.
>
>
> First, experience showed that we can't trust the updates (8.8.5 proxy 
> thing, etc...) *yet*. Neither can we trust Zimbra to call a ZCS 
> version GA. This may sound harsh but that's sadly true. We still hope 
> for a change in the futur.
>
>
> Second, we're patching the front page for SSO and a few other cosmetic 
> things.
>
>
> Third, with big infrastructures like the one we're running (100k 
> accounts), stores have serveral gigabytes large databases, and 
> upgrading databases schemas is always a risky task and usualy takes 
> several hours, so this cannot happen in an unattended way.
> With futur centralized storage for all blobs and all stores (like what 
> we're using now with Ceph) this would require some automated procedure 
> of mailbox movement between stores to free up a store, empty its 
> database, upgrade to latest major ZCS version and get the mailboxes 
> back after the update. That's actually what we're doing for running 
> upgrades with no downtime.
>
>
> Bests,
>
>
> Frédéric.
>
>
> Le 16/04/2018 à 20:46, L Mark Stone a écrit :
>
>     I'll take a contrarian view and say that if a Zimbra server can't
>     have unattended upgrades running with the Zimbra repos enabled,
>     then that would be IMHO a very serious issue that Zimbra should
>     address promptly.
>
>
>     The whole goal from Zimbra moving to their own repos as I
>     understood it was to make Zimbra servers more secure and easy to
>     maintain/upgrade for sys admins, and to lower Zimbra's support
>     costs by reducing the number of configuration permutations they
>     could expect to see in the field.
>
>
>     Certainly Zimbra are just getting experience at maintaining things
>     like package dependencies so they need to do better for sure,  but
>     Microsoft long ago moved away from allowing users to cherry pick
>     fixes/patches to simplify support and ensure systems were more
>     uniformly provisioned.  Sys Admins were happier and Microsoft's
>     support costs were reduced.
>
>
>     I think it's the right direction, so, no, I'm not undoing repos
>     nor unattended upgrades.
>
>
>     Best regards to all,
>
>     Mark
>
>     *_________________________________________________*
>
>     *Another Message From...   L. Mark Stone*
>
>
>     See my LinkedIn Profile <https://www.linkedin.com/in/lmarkstone>
>
>
>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>     *From:* Frédéric Nass <frederic.nass at univ-lorraine.fr>
>     *Sent:* Monday, April 16, 2018 9:41:49 AM
>     *To:* Barry de Graaff
>     *Cc:* L Mark Stone; Tony Publiski; users at lists.zetalliance.org;
>     Phil Pearl
>     *Subject:* Re: [Users] Zimbra 8.8.8 Patch 1 release - Seems to
>     break FOSS only servers
>
>
>
>     Le 16/04/2018 à 15:38, Barry de Graaff a écrit :
>
>         Those are crystal ball questions to me.
>
>         I think it may be wise to disable all zimbra repos, to avoid
>         issues if you are using yum-cron or unattended-upgrades.
>
>         Or in case someone installs OS upgrades, unaware of the zimbra
>         situation. For most sysadmins, the expected behavior may not
>         be what zimbra does.
>
>
>     I see we share the same habits. :-D
>
>     Frédéric.
>
>
>         On 16 Apr 2018, at 15:34, Frédéric Nass
>         <frederic.nass at univ-lorraine.fr
>         <mailto:frederic.nass at univ-lorraine.fr>> wrote:
>
>
>
>             Le 16/04/2018 à 15:26, Barry de Graaff a écrit :
>
>                 The upgrade to 8.8.8 is done with a tgz.
>
>                 The only new thing is the deployment of the patch via
>                 a repo.
>
>
>             Thank you Barry for the explanation. Do you have any idea
>             if any of those are right :
>
>             - Minor updates won't ever come from  repos. Only patches
>             will from repo "zimbra-888-patch". So downloading tarballs
>             will always be required for minor updates.
>             - Minor updates will come from repo "zimbra" and patches
>             from repo "zimbra-888-patch". So downloading tarballs will
>             only be required on initial ZCS installation.
>
>             By the way, there's another "zimbra-v1" with no packages
>             on it. This also is a mystery to me.
>
>             Frédéric.
>
>
>                 I wonder why the decision has been made to have
>                 separate repos though.
>
>                 In addition, the patch requires some parts of Zimbra
>                 restarted.
>
>                 So all in all, still some manual work, why not use one
>                 repo per mayor release and then allow yum-cron to do
>                 the rest?
>
>
>
>                 On 16 Apr 2018, at 15:17, Frédéric Nass
>                 <frederic.nass at univ-lorraine.fr
>                 <mailto:frederic.nass at univ-lorraine.fr>> wrote:
>
>                     Hi Mark,
>
>
>                     Same here. I would expect the zimbra-patch package
>                     to be updated along with other packages so that it
>                     gets applied / reapplied when updates come out. I
>                     don't know.
>
>
>                     I'm still in the process of figuring out how minor
>                     updates should be applied, from the repos or by
>                     downloading the tarball and running ./install.sh
>                     as before.
>
>                     I thought that minor updates would not come from
>                     the repos but apparently not. I'm running ZCS
>                     8.8.7 on a test VM and a yum update shows
>                     absolutely _no_ ZCS 8.8.8 updates. :-/
>
>
>                     This is so obscure.
>
>
>                     Regards,
>
>
>                     Frédéric.
>
>
>                     Le 14/04/2018 à 13:15, L Mark Stone a écrit :
>
>                         OK, I am so confused...
>
>
>                         On one Zimbra system I have automatic updates
>                         configured, so the system upgraded, from the
>                         repos, various zimbra packages including
>                         zimbra-chat zimbra-mbox-webclient-war
>                         zimbra-network-modules-ng
>
>
>                         After that update completed I then installed
>                         the patch.
>
>
>                         On another Zimbra system, I ran apt-get
>                         update; apt-get install zimbra-patch as per
>                         the release notes.  The patch installed fine,
>                         but if I run apt-get update AFTER the patch
>                         was installed, those three zimbra packages are
>                         still available for updating.
>
>
>                         So I have two questions.
>
>
>                         First, as the updated Zimbra packages were
>                         released on the same day/time as the patch,
>                         I'm assuming they are connected somehow.  If
>                         so, the what's the correct installation
>                         order?  Install the packages updates first,
>                         then the patch, or vica versa?
>
>
>                         Second question is thinking ahead a few
>                         weeks.  Zimbra updates their repos, so an
>                         apt-get update; apt-get upgrade updates some
>                         Zimbra packages.  Do I now need to reinstall
>                         the patch?
>
>
>                         Thanks,
>
>                         Mark
>
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>
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>
>
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>                         *From:* Users
>                         <users-bounces at lists.zetalliance.org>
>                         <mailto:users-bounces at lists.zetalliance.org>
>                         on behalf of Barry de Graaff
>                         <info at barrydegraaff.tk>
>                         <mailto:info at barrydegraaff.tk>
>                         *Sent:* Saturday, April 14, 2018 3:42:54 AM
>                         *To:* Tony Publiski
>                         *Cc:* users at lists.zetalliance.org
>                         <mailto:users at lists.zetalliance.org>; Phil Pearl
>                         *Subject:* Re: [Users] Zimbra 8.8.8 Patch 1
>                         release - Seems to break FOSS only servers
>                         Yeah that works well, and it is also in the
>                         release notes... so my bad!
>
>                         Kind regards,
>
>                         Barry de Graaff
>                         Zeta Alliance
>                         Co-founder & Developer
>                         zetalliance.org <http://zetalliance.org> |
>                         github.com/Zimbra-Community
>                         <http://github.com/Zimbra-Community>
>
>                         +31 617 220 227 | skype: barrydegraaff.tk
>                         Fingerprint:
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>
>                         ----- Original Message -----
>                         From: "Tony Publiski" <tonster at tonster.com>
>                         <mailto:tonster at tonster.com>
>                         To: "Barry en Katie de Graaff"
>                         <info at barrydegraaff.tk>
>                         <mailto:info at barrydegraaff.tk>, "Malte S.
>                         Stretz" <mss at msquadrat.de>
>                         <mailto:mss at msquadrat.de>
>                         Cc: "Phil Pearl" <ppearl at zimbra.com>
>                         <mailto:ppearl at zimbra.com>,
>                         users at lists.zetalliance.org
>                         <mailto:users at lists.zetalliance.org>
>                         Sent: Friday, April 13, 2018 7:36:54 PM
>                         Subject: Re[3]: [Users] Zimbra 8.8.8 Patch 1
>                         release - Seems to break FOSS only servers
>
>                         Hello again!
>
>                         Here's the response I got from engineering toda:
>
>                         I looked at installation steps. It looks like,
>                         they are using yum update
>                         -y to install patch packages.
>
>                         Instead, they should use below commands to
>                         install the patch:
>                         yum --disablerepo=*
>                         --enablerepo=zimbra-888-patch clean metadata
>                         yum check-update --disablerepo=*
>                         --enablerepo=zimbra-888-patch --noplugins
>                         yum install zimbra-patch
>
>                         Let me know if this helps!
>
>                         Tony
>
>                         ------ Original Message ------
>                         From: "Tony Publiski" <tonster at tonster.com>
>                         <mailto:tonster at tonster.com>
>                         To: "Barry de Graaff" <info at barrydegraaff.tk>
>                         <mailto:info at barrydegraaff.tk>; "Malte S. Stretz"
>                         <mss at msquadrat.de> <mailto:mss at msquadrat.de>
>                         Cc: "Phil Pearl" <ppearl at zimbra.com>
>                         <mailto:ppearl at zimbra.com>;
>                         users at lists.zetalliance.org
>                         <mailto:users at lists.zetalliance.org>
>                         Sent: 4/13/2018 9:53:01 AM
>                         Subject: Re[2]: [Users] Zimbra 8.8.8 Patch 1
>                         release - Seems to break
>                         FOSS only servers
>
>                         >Hi Barry,
>                         >
>                         >Nice find. I'll take a look and see what
>                         engineering has to say.
>                         >
>                         >Tony
>                         >
>                         >------ Original Message ------
>                         >From: "Barry de Graaff"
>                         <info at barrydegraaff.tk>
>                         <mailto:info at barrydegraaff.tk>
>                         >To: "Malte S. Stretz" <mss at msquadrat.de>
>                         <mailto:mss at msquadrat.de>
>                         >Cc: "Tony Publiski" <tonster at tonster.com>
>                         <mailto:tonster at tonster.com>; "Phil Pearl"
>                         ><ppearl at zimbra.com>
>                         <mailto:ppearl at zimbra.com>;
>                         users at lists.zetalliance.org
>                         <mailto:users at lists.zetalliance.org>
>                         >Sent: 4/13/2018 4:41:18 AM
>                         >Subject: Re: [Users] Zimbra 8.8.8 Patch 1
>                         release - Seems to break FOSS
>                         >only servers
>                         >
>                         >>No this was always FOSS only, not Zextras no
>                         Talk none of that.
>                         >>
>                         >>Kind regards,
>                         >>
>                         >>Barry de Graaff
>                         >>Zeta Alliance
>                         >>Co-founder & Developer
>                         >>zetalliance.org <http://zetalliance.org> |
>                         github.com/Zimbra-Community
>                         <http://github.com/Zimbra-Community>
>                         >>
>                         >>+31 617 220 227 | skype: barrydegraaff.tk
>                         >>Fingerprint:
>                         97f4694a1d9aedad012533db725ddd156d36a2d0
>                         >>
>                         >>----- Original Message -----
>                         >>From: "Malte S. Stretz" <mss at msquadrat.de>
>                         <mailto:mss at msquadrat.de>
>                         >>To: "Barry en Katie de Graaff"
>                         <info at barrydegraaff.tk>
>                         <mailto:info at barrydegraaff.tk>
>                         >>Cc: "Tony Publiski" <tonster at tonster.com>
>                         <mailto:tonster at tonster.com>, "Phil Pearl"
>                         >><ppearl at zimbra.com>
>                         <mailto:ppearl at zimbra.com>,
>                         users at lists.zetalliance.org
>                         <mailto:users at lists.zetalliance.org>
>                         >>Sent: Friday, April 13, 2018 10:35:12 AM
>                         >>Subject: Re: [Users] Zimbra 8.8.8 Patch 1
>                         release - Seems to break
>                         >>FOSS only servers
>                         >>
>                         >>Hi Barry,
>                         >>
>                         >>
>                         >>I always have trouble reading the dependency
>                         output of yum but to me
>                         >>it
>                         >>looks like zimbra-network-modules-ng is
>                         pulled in by zimbra-talk.
>                         >>Which
>                         >>isn't supported for FOSS and shouldn't
>                         appear in the dependency tree
>                         >>at
>                         >>all. Especially both zimbra-chat and
>                         zimbra-talk shouldn't appear at
>                         >>the
>                         >>same time.
>                         >>
>                         >>
>                         >>Did you by any chance downgrade this system
>                         from NE to FOSS at
>                         >>somepoint? Since this sounds a bit like the
>                         issue I had with such a
>                         >>downgrade on Ubuntu and for which I filed
>                         >>https://bugzilla.zimbra.com/show_bug.cgi?id=108911
>                         >>
>                         >>
>                         >>Cheers,
>                         >>
>                         >>Malte
>                         >>
>                         >>
>                         >>
>                         >>On 13.04.2018 09:13, Barry de Graaff wrote:
>                         >>>Hello Tony and Phil,
>                         >>>
>                         >>>It seems the patch 8.8.8 p1 is distributed
>                         via the repos.
>                         >>>
>                         >>>It does NOT seem to work if one runs a FOSS
>                         only server (aka without
>                         >>>Zextras).
>                         >>>
>                         >>>I am addressing Phil as there is a CVE 5.8
>                         Major security fix in the
>                         >>>patch.
>                         >>>
>                         >>>[root at zimbra1 ~]# yum update -y
>                         >>>Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, langpacks
>                         >>>Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
>                         >>>* base: centos.mirror.triple-it.nl
>                         <http://centos.mirror.triple-it.nl>
>                         >>>* epel: mirror.1000mbps.com
>                         <http://mirror.1000mbps.com>
>                         >>>* extras: mirror.denit.net
>                         <http://mirror.denit.net>
>                         >>>* updates: mirror.prolocation.net
>                         <http://mirror.prolocation.net>
>                         >>>Resolving Dependencies
>                         >>>--> Running transaction check
>                         >>>---> Package zimbra-chat.x86_64
>                         0:1.0.13.1521626727-2.r7 will be
>                         >>>obsoleted
>                         >>>---> Package zimbra-common-core-jar.x86_64
>                         0:1.0.0.1521707697-1.r7
>                         >>>will be updated
>                         >>>---> Package zimbra-common-core-jar.x86_64
>                         0:1.0.0.1522952748-1.r7
>                         >>>will be an update
>                         >>>---> Package zimbra-mbox-conf.x86_64
>                         0:1.0.0.1521707697-1.r7 will be
>                         >>>updated
>                         >>>---> Package zimbra-mbox-conf.x86_64
>                         0:1.0.0.1522952748-1.r7 will be
>                         >>>an update
>                         >>>---> Package zimbra-mbox-service.x86_64
>                         0:1.0.0.1521707697-1.r7 will
>                         >>>be updated
>                         >>>---> Package zimbra-mbox-service.x86_64
>                         0:1.0.0.1522952748-1.r7 will
>                         >>>be an update
>                         >>>---> Package zimbra-mbox-war.x86_64
>                         0:1.0.0.1521707697-1.r7 will be
>                         >>>updated
>                         >>>---> Package zimbra-mbox-war.x86_64
>                         0:1.0.0.1522952748-1.r7 will be
>                         >>>an
>                         >>>update
>                         >>>---> Package
>                         zimbra-mbox-webclient-war.x86_64
>                         0:1.0.0.1521723166-1.r7
>                         >>>will be updated
>                         >>>---> Package
>                         zimbra-mbox-webclient-war.x86_64
>                         0:1.0.0.1523095946-1.r7
>                         >>>will be an update
>                         >>>---> Package zimbra-talk.x86_64
>                         0:1.0.3.1523266296-1.r7 will be
>                         >>>obsoleting
>                         >>>--> Processing Dependency:
>                         zimbra-network-modules-ng >= 1.0.14 for
>                         >>>package:
>                         zimbra-talk-1.0.3.1523266296-1.r7.x86_64
>                         >>>--> Running transaction check
>                         >>>---> Package zimbra-network-modules-ng.x86_64
>                         >>>0:1.0.14.1522918190-1.r7
>                         >>>will be installed
>                         >>>--> Processing Dependency:
>                         zimbra-network-store >= 8.8.8 for package:
>                         >>>zimbra-network-modules-ng-1.0.14.1522918190-1.r7.x86_64
>                         >>>--> Finished Dependency Resolution
>                         >>>*Error: Package:
>                         >>>zimbra-network-modules-ng-1.0.14.1522918190-1.r7.x86_64
>                         >>>(zimbra-888-patch)*
>                         >>>* Requires: zimbra-network-store >= 8.8.8*
>                         >>>You could try using --skip-broken to work
>                         around the problem
>                         >>>You could try running: rpm -Va --nofiles
>                         --nodigest
>                         >>>
>                         >>>[root at zimbra1 ~]# su zimbra
>                         >>>[zimbra at zimbra1 root]$ zmcontrol -v
>                         >>>Release
>                         8.8.8_GA_2009.RHEL7_64_20180322150747 RHEL7_64
>                         FOSS edition.
>                         >>>
>                         >>>This is a FOSS only server, and should not
>                         fetch
>                         >>>*zimbra-network-modules-ng.*
>                         >>>
>                         >>>
>                         >>>Funny thing is, that on a FOSS server with
>                         Zextras installed, it does
>                         >>>work:
>                         >>>[root at mail ~]# yum update -y
>                         >>>Loaded plugins: fastestmirror
>                         >>>Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
>                         >>>* base: mirrors.centos.webair.com
>                         <http://mirrors.centos.webair.com>
>                         >>>* epel: mirror.math.princeton.edu
>                         <http://mirror.math.princeton.edu>
>                         >>>* extras: mirrors.centos.webair.com
>                         <http://mirrors.centos.webair.com>
>                         >>>* updates: mirrors.tripadvisor.com
>                         <http://mirrors.tripadvisor.com>
>                         >>>Resolving Dependencies
>                         >>>--> Running transaction check
>                         >>>---> Package zimbra-common-core-jar.x86_64
>                         0:1.0.0.1521707697-1.r7
>                         >>>will be updated
>                         >>>---> Package zimbra-common-core-jar.x86_64
>                         0:1.0.0.1522952748-1.r7
>                         >>>will be an update
>                         >>>---> Package zimbra-mbox-conf.x86_64
>                         0:1.0.0.1521707697-1.r7 will be
>                         >>>updated
>                         >>>---> Package zimbra-mbox-conf.x86_64
>                         0:1.0.0.1522952748-1.r7 will be
>                         >>>an update
>                         >>>---> Package zimbra-mbox-service.x86_64
>                         0:1.0.0.1521707697-1.r7 will
>                         >>>be updated
>                         >>>---> Package zimbra-mbox-service.x86_64
>                         0:1.0.0.1522952748-1.r7 will
>                         >>>be an update
>                         >>>---> Package zimbra-mbox-war.x86_64
>                         0:1.0.0.1521707697-1.r7 will be
>                         >>>updated
>                         >>>---> Package zimbra-mbox-war.x86_64
>                         0:1.0.0.1522952748-1.r7 will be
>                         >>>an
>                         >>>update
>                         >>>---> Package
>                         zimbra-mbox-webclient-war.x86_64
>                         0:1.0.0.1521723166-1.r7
>                         >>>will be updated
>                         >>>---> Package
>                         zimbra-mbox-webclient-war.x86_64
>                         0:1.0.0.1523095946-1.r7
>                         >>>will be an update
>                         >>>--> Finished Dependency Resolution
>                         >>>
>                         >>>Dependencies Resolved
>                         >>>
>                         >>>================================================================================
>                         >>>Package                   Arch   Version    Repository        Size
>                         >>>================================================================================
>                         >>>Updating:
>                         >>>zimbra-common-core-jar    x86_64 1.0.0.1522952748-1.r7
>                         >>>zimbra-888-patch  13 M
>                         >>>zimbra-mbox-conf          x86_64 1.0.0.1522952748-1.r7
>                         >>>zimbra-888-patch  35 k
>                         >>>zimbra-mbox-service       x86_64 1.0.0.1522952748-1.r7
>                         >>>zimbra-888-patch 3.7 k
>                         >>>zimbra-mbox-war           x86_64 1.0.0.1522952748-1.r7
>                         >>>zimbra-888-patch  21 M
>                         >>>zimbra-mbox-webclient-war x86_64 1.0.0.1523095946-1.r7
>                         >>>zimbra-888-patch  24 M
>                         >>>
>                         >>>Transaction Summary
>                         >>>================================================================================
>                         >>>Upgrade  5 Packages
>                         >>>
>                         >>>Total download size: 59 M
>                         >>>Downloading packages:
>                         >>>Delta RPMs disabled because
>                         /usr/bin/applydeltarpm not installed.
>                         >>>(1/5):
>                         zimbra-mbox-conf-1.0.0.1522952748-1.r7.x86_64.rpm
>                         |  35 kB
>                         >>>00:00
>                         >>>(2/5):
>                         zimbra-mbox-service-1.0.0.1522952748-1.r7.x86_64.rp
>                         | 3.7 kB
>                         >>>00:00
>                         >>>(3/5):
>                         zimbra-common-core-jar-1.0.0.1522952748-1.r7.x86_64
>                         |  13 MB
>                         >>>00:01
>                         >>>(4/5):
>                         zimbra-mbox-war-1.0.0.1522952748-1.r7.x86_64.rpm
>                         |  21 MB
>                         >>>00:02
>                         >>>(5/5):
>                         zimbra-mbox-webclient-war-1.0.0.1523095946-1.r7.x86
>                         |  24 MB
>                         >>>00:02
>                         >>>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>                         >>>Total  13 MB/s |  59 MB  00:04
>                         >>>Running transaction check
>                         >>>Running transaction test
>                         >>>Transaction test succeeded
>                         >>>Running transaction
>                         >>>Warning: RPMDB altered outside of yum.
>                         >>>  Updating   :
>                         zimbra-common-core-jar-1.0.0.1522952748-1.r7.x86_64
>
>                         >>>1/10
>                         >>>  Updating   :
>                         zimbra-mbox-war-1.0.0.1522952748-1.r7.x86_64 2/10
>                         >>>  Updating   :
>                         zimbra-mbox-conf-1.0.0.1522952748-1.r7.x86_64 3/10
>                         >>>  Updating   :
>                         zimbra-mbox-service-1.0.0.1522952748-1.r7.x86_64
>                         4/10
>                         >>>  Updating   :
>                         zimbra-mbox-webclient-war-1.0.0.1523095946-1.r7.x86_64
>                         >>>  5/10
>                         >>>  Cleanup    :
>                         zimbra-mbox-service-1.0.0.1521707697-1.r7.x86_64
>                         6/10
>                         >>>  Cleanup    :
>                         zimbra-mbox-war-1.0.0.1521707697-1.r7.x86_64 7/10
>                         >>>  Cleanup    :
>                         zimbra-mbox-conf-1.0.0.1521707697-1.r7.x86_64 8/10
>                         >>>  Cleanup    :
>                         zimbra-common-core-jar-1.0.0.1521707697-1.r7.x86_64
>
>                         >>>9/10
>                         >>>  Cleanup    :
>                         zimbra-mbox-webclient-war-1.0.0.1521723166-1.r7.x86_64
>                         >>>10/10
>                         >>>  Verifying  :
>                         zimbra-mbox-conf-1.0.0.1522952748-1.r7.x86_64 1/10
>                         >>>  Verifying  :
>                         zimbra-mbox-war-1.0.0.1522952748-1.r7.x86_64 2/10
>                         >>>  Verifying  :
>                         zimbra-mbox-service-1.0.0.1522952748-1.r7.x86_64
>                         3/10
>                         >>>  Verifying  :
>                         zimbra-mbox-webclient-war-1.0.0.1523095946-1.r7.x86_64
>                         >>>  4/10
>                         >>>  Verifying  :
>                         zimbra-common-core-jar-1.0.0.1522952748-1.r7.x86_64
>
>                         >>>5/10
>                         >>>  Verifying  :
>                         zimbra-mbox-webclient-war-1.0.0.1521723166-1.r7.x86_64
>                         >>>  6/10
>                         >>>  Verifying  :
>                         zimbra-mbox-war-1.0.0.1521707697-1.r7.x86_64 7/10
>                         >>>  Verifying  :
>                         zimbra-mbox-service-1.0.0.1521707697-1.r7.x86_64
>                         8/10
>                         >>>  Verifying  :
>                         zimbra-common-core-jar-1.0.0.1521707697-1.r7.x86_64
>
>                         >>>9/10
>                         >>>  Verifying  :
>                         zimbra-mbox-conf-1.0.0.1521707697-1.r7.x86_64
>                         10/10
>                         >>>
>                         >>>Updated:
>                         >>> zimbra-common-core-jar.x86_64
>                         0:1.0.0.1522952748-1.r7
>                         >>> zimbra-mbox-conf.x86_64
>                         0:1.0.0.1522952748-1.r7
>                         >>> zimbra-mbox-service.x86_64
>                         0:1.0.0.1522952748-1.r7
>                         >>> zimbra-mbox-war.x86_64 0:1.0.0.1522952748-1.r7
>                         >>> zimbra-mbox-webclient-war.x86_64
>                         0:1.0.0.1523095946-1.r7
>                         >>>
>                         >>>Complete!
>                         >>>[root at mail ~]# su zimbra
>                         >>>[zimbra at mail root]$ zmcontrol restart
>                         >>>
>                         >>>Good thing it's Friday!
>                         >>>
>                         >>>Kind regards,
>                         >>>
>                         >>>Barry de Graaff
>                         >>>Zeta Alliance
>                         >>>Co-founder & Developer
>                         >>>zetalliance.org <http://zetalliance.org> |
>                         github.com/Zimbra-Community
>                         <http://github.com/Zimbra-Community>
>                         >>>
>                         >>>+31 617 220 227 | skype: barrydegraaff.tk
>                         >>>Fingerprint:
>                         97f4694a1d9aedad012533db725ddd156d36a2d0
>                         >>>
>                         >>>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>                         >>>*From: *"L Mark Stone"
>                         <lmstone at lmstone.com> <mailto:lmstone at lmstone.com>
>                         >>>*To: *"Randy Leiker"
>                         <randy at skywaynetworks.com>
>                         <mailto:randy at skywaynetworks.com>,
>                         >>>users at lists.zetalliance.org
>                         <mailto:users at lists.zetalliance.org>, "Tony
>                         Publiski" <tonster at tonster.com>
>                         <mailto:tonster at tonster.com>
>                         >>>*Sent: *Friday, April 13, 2018 2:03:48 AM
>                         >>>*Subject: *Re: [Users] Zimbra 8.8.8 Patch 1
>                         release
>                         >>>
>                         >>>On a single Zimbra 8.8.8 server, a number
>                         of the Zimbra packages
>                         >>>today
>                         >>>were given updates that I installed prior
>                         to installing the patch,
>                         >>>FWIW.
>                         >>>
>                         >>>
>                         >>>Not sure how/if they are connected?
>                         >>>
>                         >>>
>                         >>>    Start-Date: 2018-04-1218:40:46
>                         >>>
>                         >>>    Commandline: apt-get dist-upgrade
>                         >>>
>                         >>>    Upgrade: zimbra-mbox-service:amd64
>                         (1.0.0.1521707697-1.u16,
>                         >>> 1.0.0.1522952748-1.u16),
>                         plymouth-theme-ubuntu-text:amd64
>                         >>> (0.9.2-3ubuntu13.3, 0.9.2-3ubuntu13.4),
>                         zimbra-mbox-conf:amd64
>                         >>> (1.0.0.1521707697-1.u16,
>                         1.0.0.1522952748-1.u16),
>                         >>> libplymouth4:amd64 (0.9.2-3ubuntu13.3,
>                         0.9.2-3ubuntu13.4),
>                         >>>    apport:amd64 (2.20.1-0ubuntu2.15,
>                         2.20.1-0ubuntu2.16),
>                         >>> zimbra-talk:amd64 (1.0.2.1521642559-1.u16,
>                         >>> 1.0.3.1523266296-1.u16),
>                         python3-apport:amd64 (2.20.1-0ubuntu2.15,
>                         >>> 2.20.1-0ubuntu2.16), zimbra-mbox-war:amd64
>                         >>> (1.0.0.1521707697-1.u16,
>                         1.0.0.1522952748-1.u16), plymouth:amd64
>                         >>> (0.9.2-3ubuntu13.3, 0.9.2-3ubuntu13.4),
>                         >>> zimbra-common-core-jar:amd64
>                         (1.0.0.1521707697-1.u16,
>                         >>> 1.0.0.1522952748-1.u16),
>                         zimbra-network-modules-ng:amd64
>                         >>> (1.0.13+1521603981-1.u16,
>                         1.0.14.1522918190-1.u16),
>                         >>> python3-problem-report:amd64
>                         (2.20.1-0ubuntu2.15,
>                         >>> 2.20.1-0ubuntu2.16),
>                         zimbra-mbox-webclient-war:amd64
>                         >>> (1.0.0.1521723166-1.u16,
>                         1.0.0.1523095946-1.u16)
>                         >>>
>                         >>>    End-Date: 2018-04-1218:41:17
>                         >>>
>                         >>>
>                         >>>    Start-Date: 2018-04-1218:44:25
>                         >>>
>                         >>>    Commandline: apt-get install zimbra-patch
>                         >>>
>                         >>>    Install: zimbra-patch:amd64
>                         (8.8.8.1.1522961836-1.u16)
>                         >>>
>                         >>>    End-Date: 2018-04-1218:44:32
>                         >>>
>                         >>>
>                         >>>
>                         >>>*_________________________________________________*
>                         >>>
>                         >>>*Another Message From...   L. Mark Stone*
>                         >>>
>                         >>>
>                         >>>
>                         >>>
>                         >>>
>                         >>>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>                         >>>*From:* Users
>                         <users-bounces at lists.zetalliance.org>
>                         <mailto:users-bounces at lists.zetalliance.org>
>                         on behalf of Tony
>                         >>>Publiski <tonster at tonster.com>
>                         <mailto:tonster at tonster.com>
>                         >>>*Sent:* Thursday, April 12, 2018 7:09 PM
>                         >>>*To:* Randy Leiker;
>                         users at lists.zetalliance.org
>                         <mailto:users at lists.zetalliance.org>
>                         >>>*Subject:* Re: [Users] Zimbra 8.8.8 Patch 1
>                         release
>                         >>>I haven't actually looked at what's fixed
>                         in this patch, however
>                         >>>*most* of the time you don't need to ever
>                         patch anything but the
>                         >>>store
>                         >>>server, so really I wouldn't even both with
>                         the other nodes. Yes, the
>                         >>>zimbra-common-core-jar package is used by zmprov, and thus exists on
>                         >>>all nodes, however it's almost certain that
>                         nothing patched affects
>                         >>>the non-mailbox server nodes. The former
>                         patch would, of course, run
>                         >>>on all nodes, but only actually copied
>                         files based on what services
>                         >>>were installed, and I can't remember a
>                         patch I was involved in
>                         >>>actually patching anything on non-store nodes.
>                         >>>
>                         >>>Tony
>                         >>>
>                         >>>------ Original Message ------
>                         >>>From: "Randy Leiker"
>                         <randy at skywaynetworks.com
>                         <mailto:randy at skywaynetworks.com>
>                         >>><mailto:randy at skywaynetworks.com>>
>                         >>>To: users at lists.zetalliance.org
>                         <mailto:users at lists.zetalliance.org>
>                         <mailto:users at lists.zetalliance.org>
>                         >>>Sent: 4/12/2018 7:03:31 PM
>                         >>>Subject: [Users] Zimbra 8.8.8 Patch 1 release
>                         >>>
>                         >>>    Hi Everyone,
>                         >>>
>                         >>>    Today Zimbra 8.8.8 Patch 1 was released
>                         as GA:
>                         >>>https://wiki.zimbra.com/wiki/Zimbra_Releases/8.8.8/P1
>                         >>>
>                         >>>    One of the bug fixes included (35115)
>                         helps with the Zimbra High
>                         >>>    Availability open source project I've
>                         been working on developing.
>                         >>>     I'll be publishing the initial
>                         reference designs for that project
>                         >>>    very soon on its own web site.  In the
>                         meantime, I deployed 8.8.8
>                         >>>    patch 1 to begin testing in my lab
>                         environment which is running
>                         >>>    CentOS 7, with ZCS 8.8.8.  The install
>                         instructions as written in
>                         >>>    the release notes for Red Hat/CentOS
>                         servers
>                         >>>
>                         >>>(https://wiki.zimbra.com/wiki/Zimbra_Releases/8.8.8/P1#Install_the_Patch)
>                         >>>    work fine if you're running a single
>                         server install of ZCS.  But,
>                         >>>    if you're running a multi-node install
>                         of ZCS, the patch install
>                         >>>    instructions in the release notes are
>                         inaccurate.
>                         >>>
>                         >>>    In my lab environment, I have the
>                         following ZCS nodes provisioned:
>                         >>>
>                         >>>      * 2 x LDAP MMR nodes
>                         >>>      * 2 x MTA nodes
>                         >>>      * 2 x Proxy nodes
>                         >>>      * 2 x Mailbox nodes
>                         >>>
>                         >>>    If you attempt to follow the install
>                         instructions for the patch
>                         >>>    with a similar ZCS multi-node
>                         environment as noted above, you'll
>                         >>>    see a dependency failure in Yum that
>                         will prevent the patch from
>                         >>>    installing:
>                         >>>
>                         >>>    Error: Package:
>                         zimbra-patch-8.8.8.1.1522961836-1.r7.x86_64
>                         >>> (zimbra-888-patch)
>                         >>> Requires: zimbra-store >= 8.8.8
>                         >>>     You could try using --skip-broken to
>                         work around the problem
>                         >>>     You could try running: rpm -Va
>                         --nofiles --nodigest
>                         >>>
>                         >>>    This occurs because the zimbra-store
>                         package isn't installed on
>                         >>>    all of the ZCS nodes.  Instead, what
>                         you'll need to do is on your
>                         >>>    LDAP, MTA, and Proxy nodes, or
>                         essentially any ZCS node where the
>                         >>>    zimbra-store package is NOT installed,
>                         simply run these commands:
>                         >>>
>                         >>>      * As the root user:
>                         >>>          o yum upgrade (upgrades the
>                         zimbra-common-core-jar package)
>                         >>>      * As the zimbra user:
>                         >>>          o zmcontrol restart
>                         >>>
>                         >>>    Then, on your ZCS mailbox nodes (where
>                         the zimbra-store package is
>                         >>>    installed), follow the install
>                         instructions as written in the
>                         >>>    8.8.8 Patch 1 release notes.
>                         >>>
>                         >>>    When you get to the section in the
>                         release notes that advises
>                         >>>running:
>                         >>>
>                         >>>      * yum install zimbra-network-modules-ng
>                         >>>      * yum install zimbra-chat  OR    yum
>                         install zimbra-talk
>                         >>>
>                         >>>    If you've already upgraded to 8.8.8,
>                         which would of course be the
>                         >>>    case if you're trying to install patch
>                         1, the 8.8.8 install
>                         >>>    process uninstalls the zimbra-chat
>                         package & replaces it with
>                         >>>    zimbra-talk, so you only need to run:
>                         >>>
>                         >>>      * As the root user:
>                         >>>          o yum install
>                         zimbra-network-modules-ng
>                         >>>          o yum install zimbra-talk
>                         >>>      * As the zimbra user:
>                         >>>          o zmmailboxdctl restart
>                         >>>
>                         >>>    Otherwise, all of the ZCS services
>                         appeared to start successfully
>                         >>>    following the install of Patch 1. I
>                         wasn't able to test it within
>                         >>>    my Zimbra lab environment, but I
>                         suspect the Ubuntu install
>                         >>>    instructions in the release notes need
>                         a similar clarification for
>                         >>>    multi-node ZCS installs.
>                         >>>
>                         >>>
>                         >>>    Randy Leiker (randy at skywaynetworks.com
>                         <mailto:randy at skywaynetworks.com>
>                         >>>    <mailto:randy at skywaynetworks.com> )
>                         >>>    Skyway Networks, LLC
>                         >>>    1.800.538.5334 / 913.663.3900 Ext. 100
>                         >>>https://www.skywaynetworks.com
>                         <http://www.skywaynetworks.com>
>                         >>>
>                         >>>
>
>
>
>
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