<html><body><div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000"><div> <!--StartFragment--><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div>Hello Zeta Alliance Community,<br><br>Here is a summary of this week’s conference call.  A few brief reminders:<br></div><ul><li>Conference calls are every <span class="Object" id="OBJ_PREFIX_DWT2133_com_zimbra_date"><span class="Object" id="OBJ_PREFIX_DWT2152_com_zimbra_date"><span class="Object" id="OBJ_PREFIX_DWT4259_com_zimbra_date"><span class="Object" id="OBJ_PREFIX_DWT4274_com_zimbra_date"><span class="Object" id="OBJ_PREFIX_DWT2284_com_zimbra_date"><span class="Object" id="OBJ_PREFIX_DWT2295_com_zimbra_date"><span class="Object" id="OBJ_PREFIX_DWT3487_com_zimbra_date"><span class="Object" id="OBJ_PREFIX_DWT3499_com_zimbra_date"><span class="Object" id="OBJ_PREFIX_DWT3936_com_zimbra_date"><span class="Object" id="OBJ_PREFIX_DWT3952_com_zimbra_date"><span class="Object" id="OBJ_PREFIX_DWT412_com_zimbra_date"><span class="Object" id="OBJ_PREFIX_DWT426_com_zimbra_date"><span class="Object" id="OBJ_PREFIX_DWT3694_com_zimbra_date"><span class="Object" id="OBJ_PREFIX_DWT3715_com_zimbra_date"><span class="Object" role="link" id="OBJ_PREFIX_DWT275_com_zimbra_date"><span class="Object" role="link" id="OBJ_PREFIX_DWT298_com_zimbra_date">Tuesday</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span> and open to all using either the FreeConferenceCall.com VoIP app or via a dial-in number: <span class="Object" id="OBJ_PREFIX_DWT2134_com_zimbra_url"><span class="Object" id="OBJ_PREFIX_DWT2153_com_zimbra_url"><span class="Object" id="OBJ_PREFIX_DWT4260_com_zimbra_url"><span class="Object" id="OBJ_PREFIX_DWT4275_com_zimbra_url"><span class="Object" id="OBJ_PREFIX_DWT2285_com_zimbra_url"><span class="Object" id="OBJ_PREFIX_DWT2296_com_zimbra_url"><span class="Object" id="OBJ_PREFIX_DWT3488_com_zimbra_url"><span class="Object" id="OBJ_PREFIX_DWT3500_com_zimbra_url"><span class="Object" id="OBJ_PREFIX_DWT3937_com_zimbra_url"><span class="Object" id="OBJ_PREFIX_DWT3953_com_zimbra_url"><span class="Object" id="OBJ_PREFIX_DWT413_com_zimbra_url"><span class="Object" id="OBJ_PREFIX_DWT427_com_zimbra_url"><span class="Object" id="OBJ_PREFIX_DWT3695_com_zimbra_url"><span class="Object" id="OBJ_PREFIX_DWT3716_com_zimbra_url"><span class="Object" role="link" id="OBJ_PREFIX_DWT276_com_zimbra_url"><span class="Object" role="link" id="OBJ_PREFIX_DWT299_com_zimbra_url"><a href="https://www.freeconferencecall.com/wall/zetalliance" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer nofollow noopener noreferrer nofollow noopener noreferrer nofollow noopener noreferrer nofollow noopener noreferrer nofollow noopener noreferrer nofollow noopener noreferrer nofollow noopener noreferrer nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" data-mce-href="https://www.freeconferencecall.com/wall/zetalliance">https://www.freeconferencecall.com/wall/zetalliance</a></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span><br></li><li>Each week’s call agenda can be found at: <span class="Object" id="OBJ_PREFIX_DWT2135_com_zimbra_url"><span class="Object" id="OBJ_PREFIX_DWT2154_com_zimbra_url"><span class="Object" id="OBJ_PREFIX_DWT4261_com_zimbra_url"><span class="Object" id="OBJ_PREFIX_DWT4276_com_zimbra_url"><span class="Object" id="OBJ_PREFIX_DWT2286_com_zimbra_url"><span class="Object" id="OBJ_PREFIX_DWT2297_com_zimbra_url"><span class="Object" id="OBJ_PREFIX_DWT3489_com_zimbra_url"><span class="Object" id="OBJ_PREFIX_DWT3501_com_zimbra_url"><span class="Object" id="OBJ_PREFIX_DWT3938_com_zimbra_url"><span class="Object" id="OBJ_PREFIX_DWT3954_com_zimbra_url"><span class="Object" id="OBJ_PREFIX_DWT414_com_zimbra_url"><span class="Object" id="OBJ_PREFIX_DWT428_com_zimbra_url"><span class="Object" id="OBJ_PREFIX_DWT3696_com_zimbra_url"><span class="Object" id="OBJ_PREFIX_DWT3717_com_zimbra_url"><span class="Object" role="link" id="OBJ_PREFIX_DWT277_com_zimbra_url"><span class="Object" role="link" id="OBJ_PREFIX_DWT300_com_zimbra_url"><a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uUUDJpwp2CAylU6lxtbEdVcUX_qSbciyes6gLTWw2fY/edit" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer nofollow noopener noreferrer nofollow noopener noreferrer nofollow noopener noreferrer nofollow noopener noreferrer nofollow noopener noreferrer nofollow noopener noreferrer nofollow noopener noreferrer nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" data-mce-href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uUUDJpwp2CAylU6lxtbEdVcUX_qSbciyes6gLTWw2fY/edit">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uUUDJpwp2CAylU6lxtbEdVcUX_qSbciyes6gLTWw2fY/edit</a></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span><br></li><li>A copy of each week’s summary is also posted to the Zimbra Forums:<ul><li><span class="Object" id="OBJ_PREFIX_DWT2140_com_zimbra_date"><span class="Object" id="OBJ_PREFIX_DWT2159_co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ohn E. commented that there is some more development work to be done in this area to make Zimbra more resilient to LDAP server failures.<br><br><strong>Sending Email With Outlook Personas And The Zimbra Connector</strong><br>Randy L. shared an issue encountered by one of his customers running Outlook with multiple personas configured, along with the Zimbra Connector for Outlook (ZCO).  The customer said that after upgrading from ZCO 8.8.15 Build 1837 to any later build of ZCO 8.8.15 or ZCO 9.0, prior to ZCO 9.0 Build 1876, the customer encountered the error “permission denied: can not access account user@domain.com” when attempting to send email via some, but not all of his Outlook personas.  The customer found that ZCO 9.0 Build 1876 contains a fix for this issue, which is undocumented in the release notes for this ZCO version.  John E. commented that the improvements in the recent releases of ZCO are a direct outcome of all of the feedback that Synacor has recently received from Zimbra partners.<br><br><strong>Feedback On The New Zimbra Patch Release Notes Format</strong><br>Randy L. commented that he liked the inclusion of the Jira tickets fixed in the release notes for 8.8.15 Patch 10 (<a href="https://wiki.zimbra.com/wiki/Zimbra_Releases/8.8.15/P10#Jira_Summary">https://wiki.zimbra.com/wiki/Zimbra_Releases/8.8.15/P10#Jira_Summary</a>) and 9.0 Patch 3 (<a href="https://wiki.zimbra.com/wiki/Zimbra_Releases/9.0.0/P3#Jira_Summary">https://wiki.zimbra.com/wiki/Zimbra_Releases/9.0.0/P3#Jira_Summary</a>).  Mark S. agreed and said that it is also helpful from a marketing perspective to see which parts of Zimbra are being actively worked on.  John W. also agreed the list of Jira tickets fixed is helpful.   John E. said that in the 9.0 Patch 3 release notes, any Jira ticket preceded with the identifier “PREAPPS-(number)” in the Jira list relates to an improvement or fix in the Zimbra 9.0 Modern UI.  He also explained that with the Jira ticket numbers, it makes it possible to see the commit history for a Jira ticket in Zimbra’s Github repos, but that the only challenge is in finding the corresponding Zimbra Github repo, since Zimbra currently uses many Github repos.<br><br><strong>Protecting The Postfix Submission Port In Zimbra From Abuse</strong><br>Mark S. shared a blog post that he recently wrote related to protecting the Postifx submission port in Postfix (TCP 587) within Zimbra from brute force password guessing attacks: <a href="https://www.missioncriticalemail.com/2020/06/08/zimbra-fail2ban-for-submission-only/">https://www.missioncriticalemail.com/2020/06/08/zimbra-fail2ban-for-submission-only/</a></div><div><br></div><div data-marker="__SIG_PRE__"><div><div><div><span style="color:rgb( 255 , 102 , 0 );font-weight:bold"><br>Randy Leiker (</span><span style="font-weight:bold"> <span style="color:rgb( 51 , 51 , 255 );background-color:rgb( 255 , 255 , 255 )">randy@skywaynetworks.com</span> <span style="color:rgb( 255 , 102 , 0 )">)</span></span><br><span style="color:rgb( 0 , 0 , 153 )">Skyway Networks, LLC</span><br></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>