[Users] Zimbra X

[Randy Leiker]

As best as I can tell, I think that's what Synacor is up to as well. I sort of remember some brief mentions in the last New York Commit event about using a replicated NoSQL database with object storage (Ceph?) for mailboxes, which would allow for removing the statefulness from the Zimbra mailbox nodes. If I'm recalling that correctly, it's possible Synacor switched their strategy & decided to introduce a blockchain technology as the mailbox storage layer, which if true, would be a very novel approach. 


I wasn't able to attend the more recent Forum France event that Zimbra held, so there may have been more specifics offered at that event about where they're going with the mailbox storage piece. Maybe we can get a bit of clarification from the Zimbra guys on next week's Zeta call. 





Randy Leiker ( randy at skywaynetworks.com ) 
Skyway Networks, LLC 
1.800.538.5334 / 913.663.3900 Ext. 100 
https://www.skywaynetworks.com 

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From: "Noah Price" <noah-zeta at prxy.com> 
To: "Randy Leiker" <randy at skywaynetworks.com> 
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2018 11:10:37 PM 
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Sure, I wasn't meaning to direct that at you, though I see that's what it looked like. 


>From what they've been describing in the COMMITs, they built mail transport and routing for high availability, orchestrated with swarm or kubernetes. I thought they were actually removing state from the mailbox nodes, so they could easily be destroyed and regenerated. I'll need to dig up my notes for any more detail :-) I remember they were relying on the storage layer for replication between sites, but I'm not sure how that's evolved in the past six months. 



Noah 



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From: "Randy Leiker" <randy at skywaynetworks.com> 
To: "Noah Price" <noah-zeta at prxy.com> 
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Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2018 8:38:40 PM 
Subject: Re: [Users] Zimbra X 




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It's all good Noah & that's what I thought you were asking. I still suspect Synacor may be using EOSIO for something having to do with the mailbox storage rather than using EOSIO for running the individual Zimbra services, since the Docker containers would be a very logical way to segment each Zimbra service. As containers, they'd be trivial to clone and that all dovetails nicely with high availability, especially since the press release implies out of the box integration with container orchestration tools like Kubernetes & Docker Swarm. 






Randy Leiker ( randy at skywaynetworks.com ) 
Skyway Networks, LLC 
1.800.538.5334 / 913.663.3900 Ext. 100 
https://www.skywaynetworks.com 

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From: "Noah Price" <noah-zeta at prxy.com> 
To: "users" <users at lists.zetalliance.org> 
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2018 8:25:01 PM 
Subject: Re: [Users] Zimbra X 




Thanks Randy! I also noticed I edited myself down to the point of being confusing... the second sentence actually refers to Zimbra X, but my original email probably sounded like I was referring to EOSIO. the sentence should read: 

Can anyone elaborate on how EOSIO relates? The beta page says it Zimbra X is built on Docker Swarm or Kubernetes. 


Thanks, 


Noah 
prxy, Inc. 

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From: "Randy Leiker" <randy at skywaynetworks.com> 
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Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2018 4:06:17 PM 
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Thanks for passing along the PR link Noah. I'm curious about the same thing. I'm wondering if EOSIO is being used somehow to facilitate breaking the individual Zimbra services in to separate Docker containers, or if its purpose is something even more creative like moving away from storing mailbox content in a relational database (MariaDB) and on-disk blobs to a blockchain format. If it's the latter, that would likely solve several limitations in Zimbra today with storage of user accounts on stateful mailbox nodes, since the mailbox data would be fully decoupled from the mailbox nodes & stored in a decentralized blockchain. 


I was looking at this page https://github.com/EOSIO/eos/wiki/Smart%20Contract & in my brief reading of it, it seems like EOSIO could be applied to both the storage of mailbox data, plus the typical actions taken on individual mailbox messages (deleting, tagging, etc.). 


I'm sure this will land on the agenda for next week's Zeta call. 





Randy Leiker ( randy at skywaynetworks.com ) 
Skyway Networks, LLC 
1.800.538.5334 / 913.663.3900 Ext. 100 
https://www.skywaynetworks.com 

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From: "Noah Price" <noah-zeta at prxy.com> 
To: "users" <users at lists.zetalliance.org> 
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2018 4:35:59 PM 
Subject: [Users] Zimbra X 




In case you haven't seen the press release making the social media rounds, and the Zimbra X Beta site linked from the PR. 

Can anyone elaborate on how EOSIO relates? The beta page says it is built on Docker Swarm or Kubernetes. 

https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20180515005811/en/Synacor-Brings-Zimbra-Email-Collaboration-Platform-Blockchain 


Thanks, 


Noah 
prxy, Inc. 
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